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Fuck em.

Oh and the buff they're getting in 2.2?

Fuck that too.

YEAH IM MAD!

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Aguni wrote:
Fuck em.

Oh and the buff they're getting in 2.2?

Fuck that too.

YEAH IM MAD!


That was my main build until I became a good guy bard after Storm Legion. Got both my rogues to Executioner and Lord of War with it.

I might take a look at it Sin/RS again, but I'll probably keep it as an off spec for ganking and such. I'm converted.

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How it are they getting a buff link patch notes?

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I'm not going to believe any class is getting "buffed" or "nerfed" until live.

Everything keeps changing too fast.

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Thedarkside wrote:
How it are they getting a buff link patch notes?



Go to the PTS part of the forums.
Assassins WILL be getting buffed dude.

its Ailion's attempt to bring several Rogue souls INCLUDING assassin up to par.

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Aguni wrote:
Thedarkside wrote:
How it are they getting a buff link patch notes?



Go to the PTS part of the forums.
Assassins WILL be getting buffed dude.

its Ailion's attempt to bring several Rogue souls INCLUDING assassin up to par.


You're missing the part where they're fixing doubledipping.

As in some War/Rogue specs are doing half of what they used to.

So while it sure looks like a lot of "DAMAGE INCREASED" it might not actually be as bad as it is now.

It's the last great chance to save pvp imo.

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Valnak wrote:
Aguni wrote:
Thedarkside wrote:
How it are they getting a buff link patch notes?



Go to the PTS part of the forums.
Assassins WILL be getting buffed dude.

its Ailion's attempt to bring several Rogue souls INCLUDING assassin up to par.


You're missing the part where they're fixing doubledipping.

As in some War/Rogue specs are doing half of what they used to.

So while it sure looks like a lot of "DAMAGE INCREASED" it might not actually be as bad as it is now.

It's the last great chance to save pvp imo.


i think i saw somewhere daglar(if it wasn't dalgar then it was someone else i can't remember) said after fixing double dips, some builds saw 50% dps loss when parsing, that's why alot of rogue/warriors souls are getting changes/"buffs".

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Valnak wrote:
Aguni wrote:
Thedarkside wrote:
How it are they getting a buff link patch notes?



Go to the PTS part of the forums.
Assassins WILL be getting buffed dude.

its Ailion's attempt to bring several Rogue souls INCLUDING assassin up to par.


You're missing the part where they're fixing doubledipping.

As in some War/Rogue specs are doing half of what they used to.

So while it sure looks like a lot of "DAMAGE INCREASED" it might not actually be as bad as it is now.

It's the last great chance to save pvp imo.



Well that's the thing, I am not sure if Assassin's themselves suffered the double dipping bug as badly as Sab and Ranger did.
Maybe through their low tier poisons, which explains the ranger/sab/sin combo, but full Assassin I believe has been parsing low.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't believe Assassin utilizes many self buffs that alter the core of their damage in such a way as a Chloro's selfbuffs alter their healing.
Even more so since the buffs for assassin aren't affecting self buffs, but are affecting their talents or affecting their expose weakness debuff which is applied to the opponent and doesn't suffer the double dip bug.

Hence why I am concerned.


Its still a stupid fucking soul anyway.
Plus they always haunt the Vault in Codex like a bunch of annoying ass ghosts.

woooooo im an assassin, IM GONNA JUMP YOU WOOOOOO!


FUCK YOU GOOD SIR!
THIS IS MY MAD FACE!

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I admit I'm a noob at mechanics, what does "double dipping" mean concerning DPS and healing?

It's not going to mess with my bard is it?

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LeCreaux wrote:
I admit I'm a noob at mechanics, what does "double dipping" mean concerning DPS and healing?

It's not going to mess with my bard is it?

You're gonna get FUCKED as a bard actually.

Double dipping is essentially where a self buff, such as Life giving veil, applies its effects TWICE.

So for example, when a Mage has his LGV up and the tooltip reads, 800 to 2300, in reality its the same as if he has two LGV's up at the same time. So his actual healing goes along the lines of 1600 to 4600. It double dips.

Essentially, if it is an ability that "creates" an effect like LGV does such as causing damage to create healing, it double dips.
An ability that modifies damage such as Fire Armor doesn't double dip since it isn't making some new effect, it is merely modifying a base value.

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What's wrong with assassin is that it's damage is mostly passive so any fucktard can play it.

Sin/rs at least can be responded to if you arent a 30k+ HP tank, whereas full sin you will melt in less than 2 finishers.

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